We should go with priority for people with the old raffle ticket style season ticket books. *raises hand*
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I went to Hartlepool in February 1986, the game of horizontal rain and we got stuffed 3-1. Do I qualify?Lancasterclaret wrote: ↑Mon Feb 06, 2023 1:01 pmYes
I've always argued that loyalty can only be judged on whether you went to places like Hartlepool in the depths of winter for a 0-0
By some complete coincidence, that would mean I qualify
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That day was horrendous. One of the coldest ever and wet through on one side despite being under cover.Herts Clarets wrote: ↑Mon Feb 06, 2023 1:16 pmI went to Hartlepool in February 1986, the game of horizontal rain and we got stuffed 3-1. Do I qualify?
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Had passports in hand for Aberdeen but no-one bothered to check them. Because of that people will take the risks, even if it says you need ID. So all a bit pointless unless it gets enforced for every away game.1989_claret wrote: ↑Mon Feb 06, 2023 12:18 pmThe club did this for Istanbul and Athens on the day of the games in 2018. Turn up, present passport and receive ticket.
It isn't feasible and i wouldn't want to have to do this for a standard UK away game.
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Re: 2022/23: Blackpool v Burnley – Ticket Information
Problem with that is you’ve got 20k people who claim to have been on the Colchester game in the 80’s.Lancasterclaret wrote: ↑Mon Feb 06, 2023 1:01 pmYes
I've always argued that loyalty can only be judged on whether you went to places like Hartlepool in the depths of winter for a 0-0
By some complete coincidence, that would mean I qualify
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Re: 2022/23: Blackpool v Burnley – Ticket Information
NoHerts Clarets wrote: ↑Mon Feb 06, 2023 1:16 pmI went to Hartlepool in February 1986, the game of horizontal rain and we got stuffed 3-1. Do I qualify?
(Sorry, I don't make the rules but its not a game I was at so.....)
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Cost me a fortune to go on that gameBordeauxclaret wrote: ↑Mon Feb 06, 2023 1:30 pmProblem with that is you’ve got 20k people who claim to have been on the Colchester game in the 80’s.
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I'm sure, from memory, that we'd got the Aberdeen tickets send in the post. I think (stand to be corrected) that the tickets had names on them and the passports would verify that they belonged to the correct person. I do remember that we had to arrive outside the ground about 1.5/2 hours before kick-off. Yet there were no ID checks after all that.
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I’ve suggested previously when this topic has come up, could “pooling” be an option that works?
If a child is a STH then there’s most likely also an adult also who’s a STH, so if the adult & child has a set amount combined between them (say 8000) then 1 adult & 1 child ticket can be bought
If a child is a STH then there’s most likely also an adult also who’s a STH, so if the adult & child has a set amount combined between them (say 8000) then 1 adult & 1 child ticket can be bought
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If I was the club I’d be offering plenty of loyalty points for league and fa cup home games. Other than that I can live with the current one. I missed out on Luton but then I’ll be there at others. I don’t go to every away game but I am season ticket holder (last ten years consecutively, before that my season tickets were pre the points system starting)
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Rolling seasons for applicable points might make sense.
Could be 5 seasons with new targets. That way someone who hasn’t been to an away game for 5-10 years doesn’t get priority of a current regular attending home and away fan.
It also means it might only take 4-5 seasons for a child to be eligible for priority tickets. We all have to earn our stripes!
A rough example of how it might work:
200 points for a season ticket.
10 points for a home game.
20 points for an away game.
Priority level 1 = 1,500 points
You’d have to have had a season ticket for 5 years, and been to 25 away matches in that time, or perhaps some home games and 15-20 away games.
Priority level 2 = 1,250 points
Priority level 3 = 1,000 points
Basically all 5 year season ticket holders, or 3 years + 20 away games etc etc.
Counted seasons
This season it’s the previous 4 seasons plus the current one, so the earliest counting season would be 2018/19 season.
If you haven’t been attending for 3-4 years then you’d find it more difficult to get tickets for big away matches.
Could be 5 seasons with new targets. That way someone who hasn’t been to an away game for 5-10 years doesn’t get priority of a current regular attending home and away fan.
It also means it might only take 4-5 seasons for a child to be eligible for priority tickets. We all have to earn our stripes!
A rough example of how it might work:
200 points for a season ticket.
10 points for a home game.
20 points for an away game.
Priority level 1 = 1,500 points
You’d have to have had a season ticket for 5 years, and been to 25 away matches in that time, or perhaps some home games and 15-20 away games.
Priority level 2 = 1,250 points
Priority level 3 = 1,000 points
Basically all 5 year season ticket holders, or 3 years + 20 away games etc etc.
Counted seasons
This season it’s the previous 4 seasons plus the current one, so the earliest counting season would be 2018/19 season.
If you haven’t been attending for 3-4 years then you’d find it more difficult to get tickets for big away matches.
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Re: 2022/23: Blackpool v Burnley – Ticket Information
The ST points needs to be more than 200 as 10 points per game would give you 230 points in a non PL seasonClaretforever wrote: ↑Mon Feb 06, 2023 2:34 pmRolling seasons for applicable points might make sense.
Could be 5 seasons with new targets. That way someone who hasn’t been to an away game for 5-10 years doesn’t get priority of a current regular attending home and away fan.
It also means it might only take 4-5 seasons for a child to be eligible for priority tickets. We all have to earn our stripes!
A rough example of how it might work:
200 points for a season ticket.
10 points for a home game.
20 points for an away game.
Priority level 1 = 1,500 points
You’d have to have had a season ticket for 5 years, and been to 25 away matches in that time, or perhaps some home games and 15-20 away games.
Priority level 2 = 1,250 points
Priority level 3 = 1,000 points
Basically all 5 year season ticket holders, or 3 years + 20 away games etc etc.
Counted seasons
This season it’s the previous 4 seasons plus the current one, so the earliest counting season would be 2018/19 season.
If you haven’t been attending for 3-4 years then you’d find it more difficult to get tickets for big away matches.
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Has anyone managed to get a ticket in EH?
It won't load for me, but if they're not going on sale we have almost sold out.
It won't load for me, but if they're not going on sale we have almost sold out.
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When we were in the queue there were two Burnley FC employees making random checks here and there.Spijed wrote: ↑Mon Feb 06, 2023 1:50 pmI'm sure, from memory, that we'd got the Aberdeen tickets send in the post. I think (stand to be corrected) that the tickets had names on them and the passports would verify that they belonged to the correct person. I do remember that we had to arrive outside the ground about 1.5/2 hours before kick-off. Yet there were no ID checks after all that.
I believe UEFA ticketing rules state that this has to be done for away fans.
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Still a handful of seats in the other blockQuickenthetempo wrote: ↑Mon Feb 06, 2023 2:49 pmHas anyone managed to get a ticket in EH?
It won't load for me, but if they're not going on sale we have almost sold out.
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We should implement a system whereby you get awarded 100 loyalty points per game multiplied by a factor of how many miles you live away from the venue. So for example, if you live 82 miles from the venue you get awarded 100 loyalty points multiplied by 0.82 - and therefore are awarded 82 loyalty points for that particular game. The less loyal fans who don't travel as far, say for example someone who lives just 4 miles from the ground, would get 4 loyalty points.
I would also introduce a 'green incentive', so travelling by car would carry a penalty which further diminishes the points, but travelling on foot, by train or supporters coach would be rewarded with a points multiplier. So far example the person who lives 4 miles away could walk to the game and receive a loyalty points multiplier of 5, bringing their points total to 20, whereas the person who is on 82 loyalty points has a tough decision, as if they drive they would be penalised by a factor of 0.2, whereas the more expensive train would only carry a penalty of a factor of 0.8. Then we could maybe take people's household income into account, technically the more wealthy people are less loyal so they get rewarded less than those who have to scrimp and save for a ticket - I just haven't figured out how we would do that yet. Then we just need a way to make sure that kids can't attend away games.
Either that or we just keep it the same.
I would also introduce a 'green incentive', so travelling by car would carry a penalty which further diminishes the points, but travelling on foot, by train or supporters coach would be rewarded with a points multiplier. So far example the person who lives 4 miles away could walk to the game and receive a loyalty points multiplier of 5, bringing their points total to 20, whereas the person who is on 82 loyalty points has a tough decision, as if they drive they would be penalised by a factor of 0.2, whereas the more expensive train would only carry a penalty of a factor of 0.8. Then we could maybe take people's household income into account, technically the more wealthy people are less loyal so they get rewarded less than those who have to scrimp and save for a ticket - I just haven't figured out how we would do that yet. Then we just need a way to make sure that kids can't attend away games.
Either that or we just keep it the same.
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EH just spinning as you say. 2 left in EF.
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Rileybobs wrote: ↑Mon Feb 06, 2023 2:58 pmWe should implement a system whereby you get awarded 100 loyalty points per game multiplied by a factor of how many miles you live away from the venue. So for example, if you live 82 miles from the venue you get awarded 100 loyalty points multiplied by 0.82 - and therefore are awarded 82 loyalty points for that particular game. The less loyal fans who don't travel as far, say for example someone who lives just 4 miles from the ground, would get 4 loyalty points.
I would also introduce a 'green incentive', so travelling by car would carry a penalty which further diminishes the points, but travelling on foot, by train or supporters coach would be rewarded with a points multiplier. So far example the person who lives 4 miles away could walk to the game and receive a loyalty points multiplier of 5, bringing their points total to 20, whereas the person who is on 82 loyalty points has a tough decision, as if they drive they would be penalised by a factor of 0.2, whereas the more expensive train would only carry a penalty of a factor of 0.8. Then we could maybe take people's household income into account, technically the more wealthy people are less loyal so they get rewarded less than those who have to scrimp and save for a ticket - I just haven't figured out how we would do that yet. Then we just need a way to make sure that kids can't attend away games.
Either that or we just keep it the same.
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Don't need a new system for a few games a season...
And for those that do miss out there's still plenty of seats available for Millwall.
And for those that do miss out there's still plenty of seats available for Millwall.
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Re: 2022/23: Blackpool v Burnley – Ticket Information
No because the kid then gets ahead of adults with more points which obvs isn't fairwilks_bfc wrote: ↑Mon Feb 06, 2023 1:54 pmI’ve suggested previously when this topic has come up, could “pooling” be an option that works?
If a child is a STH then there’s most likely also an adult also who’s a STH, so if the adult & child has a set amount combined between them (say 8000) then 1 adult & 1 child ticket can be bought
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I think the frustration for some, me included, is not being able to get 2 tickets together for me and my son, who is 5. He’s a season ticket holder this year and we’ve only managed Sunderland away. The option of taking a 5 year old to Millwall away on a Tuesday night isn’t doable. Blackpool on a Saturday would be.
If I miss out, so be it, I won’t kick up a fuss at the loyalty points scheme, but it is frustrating.
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It’s simply a supply & demand, demand was always going to outweigh supply, that’s just how it is. It’ll probably be the same for them down the road as well. At the moment we could probably take 10,000 plus to the local away games, the process is there, is it perfect no it’s not.
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How about we flip this on it’s head - what about if you lost loyalty points for every away game you attend? That would really test people’s loyalty, as you’d have to sacrifice going to some games to guarantee getting first dibs on the more attractive fixtures. Only the most loyal of fan will miss out on Milwall away, for example, to guarantee tickets for Blackpool or Rovers.
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Could have gone Norwich, if not there always reading and Hull coming up soon, they'll probably reach 2k points if not general sale.Robbie_painter wrote: ↑Mon Feb 06, 2023 3:52 pmThere’s also plenty of people that can’t make Millwall on a Tuesday night.I agree with the points system as well btw.
I had this debate many moons ago, no body wanted to know.
So instead of beating them, I joined them.
The kids have found other things to do now at Weekends, so sadly unlike myself 30 years ago I couldn't get them hooked at an early age
( it's not all bad, it does mean I get a few scoops with the lads on the Weekends now, and it's probably saved me a few quid too )
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Re: 2022/23: Blackpool v Burnley – Ticket Information
Gave up waiting and went to the ticket office at 3pm. Been given tickets in block H Row P.
I assume H is the same as EH.
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Like has been said here and above.
Only Block EH remaining but it won't load so you can't select tickets. If that isn't resolved tonight then your only option is to be at the front of the queue in the morning.
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Re: 2022/23: Blackpool v Burnley – Ticket Information
You can still purchase in block EH without selecting seats - just click add to basket instead. Just added two adults to basket and got allocated Row T seats 223 & 224
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Excellent.bfcfan1882 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 06, 2023 5:17 pmYou can still purchase in block EH without selecting seats - just click add to basket instead. Just added two adults to basket and got allocated Row T seats 223 & 224
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Just to put it into perspective, I live in Leeds and coach a junior football team. It is almost impossible for kids to get tickets for any of their home matches, never mind away matches. As much as a dislike Leeds as a club, it is awful and tragic to see kids who live for football never being able to go to matches and see their hero's play. Same at a several other clubs too.
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If EH is the last block there's less than 20 seats left
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Millwall midweek on a school night with kids, some people need to live in the real world at times, also some adults like me who work school term time hrs can't have midweek time off work
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Makes me laugh that there's still all this debate after all these years. The club know the system isn't fit for purpose, but choose to stick with it because it's now so deep-rooted that any change would see one group of disgruntled fans replaced by another. So they just don't see it as their problem. They know that lots of people use each others numbers. They could have closed the loophole on buying tickets for a different age group to the person whose number it is quite easily. They don't because they don't care. They can be disingenuous and talk about having a loyalty scheme whilst leaving it wide open to abuse.
I'm not sure how any fair minded individual can think the current system is 'fair'. Pretty much every away game only goes on sale to people with over 6,000 points, which is at least 11 years of having a season ticket and attending every away game possible. Not exactly fair on our diehard youngsters is it, and that's before we get into how Burnley is a deprived area and how some young people are only able to get a ST for the first time once they start earning their own wage.
I say all this as someone who has around 10,000 points and does pick and choose my away games. I've been saying it for many years (before I had kids). Now I've got kids, just like many others I play the game of sharing numbers around. It's a joke, but looks like we're stuck with it.
I'm not sure how any fair minded individual can think the current system is 'fair'. Pretty much every away game only goes on sale to people with over 6,000 points, which is at least 11 years of having a season ticket and attending every away game possible. Not exactly fair on our diehard youngsters is it, and that's before we get into how Burnley is a deprived area and how some young people are only able to get a ST for the first time once they start earning their own wage.
I say all this as someone who has around 10,000 points and does pick and choose my away games. I've been saying it for many years (before I had kids). Now I've got kids, just like many others I play the game of sharing numbers around. It's a joke, but looks like we're stuck with it.
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Think that is just your opinion.ChorltonCharlie wrote: ↑Mon Feb 06, 2023 6:00 pmMakes me laugh that there's still all this debate after all these years. The club know the system isn't fit for purpose, but choose to stick with it because it's now so deep-rooted that any change would see one group of disgruntled fans replaced by another. So they just don't see it as their problem. They know that lots of people use each others numbers. They could have closed the loophole on buying tickets for a different age group to the person whose number it is quite easily. They don't because they don't care. They can be disingenuous and talk about having a loyalty scheme whilst leaving it wide open to abuse.
I'm not sure how any fair minded individual can think the current system is 'fair'. Pretty much every away game only goes on sale to people with over 6,000 points, which is at least 11 years of having a season ticket and attending every away game possible. Not exactly fair on our diehard youngsters is it, and that's before we get into how Burnley is a deprived area and how some young people are only able to get a ST for the first time once they start earning their own wage.
I say all this as someone who has around 10,000 points and does pick and choose my away games. I've been saying it for many years (before I had kids). Now I've got kids, just like many others I play the game of sharing numbers around. It's a joke, but looks like we're stuck with it.
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Re: 2022/23: Blackpool v Burnley – Ticket Information
ChorltonCharlie absolutely spot on but the I'm alright Jack brigade won't see it like that
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We’ve so many 6,000 point holders now they’ve added 23/24 season ticket points that someone who has been to every away game this season, and has a season ticket, might miss out to someone who picks and chooses. How is that a functioning loyalty system, and I say that with 10k plus points.
It’s gonna be a scrap next season when they keep first priority at 6,000 points and regularly take the small allocation of tickets, which they will, as they don’t care.
It’s gonna be a scrap next season when they keep first priority at 6,000 points and regularly take the small allocation of tickets, which they will, as they don’t care.
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Re: 2022/23: Blackpool v Burnley – Ticket Information
Think Rotherham away might be your last chance this season to whinge about the loyalty system, all other games will get to season tickets/general sale.AGENT_CLARET wrote: ↑Mon Feb 06, 2023 6:05 pmChorltonCharlie absolutely spot on but the I'm alright Jack brigade won't see it like that
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Re: 2022/23: Blackpool v Burnley – Ticket Information
Only 1 game, Luton, this season, has only been sold to people with over 6000 points.ChorltonCharlie wrote: ↑Mon Feb 06, 2023 6:00 pmPretty much every away game only goes on sale to people with over 6,000 points
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What about next season when we invariably take the smallest allocation of away tickets.Barlickclaret wrote: ↑Mon Feb 06, 2023 6:13 pmThink Rotherham away might be your last chance this season to whinge about the loyalty system, all other games will get to season tickets/general sale.
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Re: 2022/23: Blackpool v Burnley – Ticket Information
They should scrap it and start again. Everyone starts from scratch, then it’s changed to loyalty based on season ticket plus away game attendance. Everyone is treated fairly then so no one can moan.
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Re: 2022/23: Blackpool v Burnley – Ticket Information
So the fans who have been loyal for 50yrs + are getting treated fairly. What your saying is how it works.Granny WeatherWax wrote: ↑Mon Feb 06, 2023 6:15 pmThey should scrap it and start again. Everyone starts from scratch, then it’s changed to loyalty based on season ticket plus away game attendance. Everyone is treated fairly then so no one can moan.
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You'd like to think they won't automatically do that, after our away followings this season.Granny WeatherWax wrote: ↑Mon Feb 06, 2023 6:15 pmWhat about next season when we invariably take the smallest allocation of away tickets.
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That was when we had an inept short sighted board.Granny WeatherWax wrote: ↑Mon Feb 06, 2023 6:15 pmWhat about next season when we invariably take the smallest allocation of away tickets.
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There’s that many people over 6,000 points now it doesn’t matter, as I for example, who goes to every match gets treated no differently to someone who has had a season ticket for the same length of time but never goes away.Barlickclaret wrote: ↑Mon Feb 06, 2023 6:18 pmSo the fans who have been loyal for 50yrs + are getting treated fairly. What your saying is how it works.
time to start again.
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Think they only did that because novelty had wore off for the prem league bandwagon jumpers, and we didn't sell out for the likes of city, utd, Liverpool, Everton.Granny WeatherWax wrote: ↑Mon Feb 06, 2023 6:15 pmWhat about next season when we invariably take the smallest allocation of away tickets.
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The ticket office has got a lot worse under the current regime! To be honest I’d be surprised if Pace knows what a shambles it is.
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Re: 2022/23: Blackpool v Burnley – Ticket Information
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Re: 2022/23: Blackpool v Burnley – Ticket Information
The TO staff aren't the problem but certainly the move to online/computerised ticketing has not been good.Granny WeatherWax wrote: ↑Mon Feb 06, 2023 6:22 pmThe ticket office has got a lot worse under the current regime! To be honest I’d be surprised if Pace knows what a shambles it is.
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