The Sun again - Kompany & Spurs

[jedi_master]

I hear the argument of “Why would he go to Spurs? If he failed there he’ll never get the City job”. The reality is if he ‘fails’ at Burnley in the Premier League (I.e, relegation/sacked) then the same is probably true.

I dearly hope there is nothing in it as I don’t see a world where any Burnley manager turns down the Spurs managers job. I think that’s highly unlikely in any circumstance. He’d surely have to take it.

[SouthLondonexile]

All I would say is I’m never surprised at what happens in football.

[tiger76]

No idea whether VK will go to Spurs or not, but all these rumours aren't going away however unfounded they might be.

Vinny didn't really say anything unusual in his presser when linked to a bigger job, but equally he didn't rule himself out if Spurs do come calling.

If I had to bet I'd say he'll probably stay at Burnley, but I can see why he'd be interested in the Spurs gig.

That's the price of success bigger clubs will always be eyeing up progressive young managers, and VK definitely falls into that category.

And I only hope Pace has a list of possible successors if the worst should happen.

[BurnleyFC]

If he gets offered it, he’ll take it and I’ll be gutted but always thankful.

[bfcjg]

The players and fans are in awe of him at Burnley such is his legendary out of our league status, consequently his every word is believed and acted upon.
At Spurs he will be that bloke who played against us numerous times and player x or y gave him the run round, operated etc, here we compare him to Dyche,Cotterill, Coyle etc so he is on a pedestal, Spurs it is Conte, Pochettino Mourinho etc so it will be Poch would have done that, Conte wouldn't have lost that etc.
He needs to build his reputation with us for a while then move up the club size league before City come knocking. If Pep was to advise him I'm sure he'd advise him to stay.

[RVclaret]

Mental that this whole thing has been started by a Sun 'journalist' with 700 followers on Twitter and whose bio which reads 'You can't make it up', blown up by Talksport and their garbage pundits who have jumped on it for clicks and now Sky Sports are sending journalists to capture headlines off the back of it. Zero class, any of them.

[fatboy47]

Going nowhere.

It's all about filling your quota of column inches for at least one of the journalists involved...just relax and enjoy next season everyone.

[redcloud203]

Spurs are a top 6 side , fantastic new stadium , large budget and play European football regularly . Nobody could blame him for taking the role but if he goes - hopefully not - what a season to remember he has given us as Burnley fans .

[9thMay1987]

From the Spurs perspective they have to get this right. Arsenal are running away from them and will be even better next season.

Can they afford to take a punt on a one season wonder, from a lower division , who didn't achieve much in his home country?

Or do they need a proven experienced European manager to ensure they van compete against Arsenal and the rest.

[brunlea99]

A more realistic article:

https://the72.co.uk/2023/04/14/slightly ... ournalist/

[JarrowClaret]

I honestly don’t think that VK will want the Spurs job. I get the fact that they would no doubt pay him more than we can afford but it’s not as though VK is skint! His family are also happy in the North West.

Also, why join a club that never backs its manager and will probably be losing its number 1 asset Harry Kane this summer? To make matters worse, they have a completely deluded fan base who despite everything I’ve just said, somehow expect to be challenging for major honours every year whilst also playing great football!?!? Talk about a recipe for disaster as proven by the last 8 managers to come and go through that club in the last 10 years!

He joined us, who had got rid or were about to get rid of the majority of it’s main assets and had a history of not really backing our manager much!

[Darnhill Claret]

I would say that Burnley FC have an excellent history of ɓacking our managers. I would say in recent times there is only Brian Laws who we sacked purely on results and that our turnover of managers would compare favourably with almost any other club. I stand to be corrected.

[Rileybobs]

With Jesse Marsch currently available would this really be a bad thing?

[Longsider]

With Jesse Marsch currently available would this really be a bad thing?

Yes, very bad but i suspect this was a fishing comment

[CrosspoolClarets]

The Sours job is currently poison based on what Conte said, and the philosophy of a club like that is to have people above the coach making the key decisions on transfers (logical if the coach is in a revolving door). Their director of football Paratici has a worldwide ban from FIFA (appealing). The attitude and desire of the players is questionable. The problems at Spurs go far beyond the coach, as Conte alluded to.

So whoever takes that job is almost certain to fail. If that is VK, I understand it. But I would also understand him staying and I think he will.

[blake's wand]

I don't think Kompany will go - but I don't love the way he has been answering the questions about his future. Just refusal to answer them vs. it would be very easy to just say 'I'm happy here, really looking forward to the challenge next season.

[DCWat]

I don’t see a world where any Burnley manager turns down the Spurs managers job. I think that’s highly unlikely in any circumstance. He’d surely have to take it.

1) Agreeing to take on a project over the next 2, 3, 4 years
2) Loyalty to those that recruited him
3) Loyalty to those that he has brought in
4) Different aspirations (Man City?)
5) Readiness - he himself may not feel ready for that challenge
6) He may want a big job but not Spurs
7) Failing at Burnley in the Premier League would be far less damaging than failing at Spurs.

The Spurs job is huge, of course it it, but there’s a raft of possible reasons that the Spurs job, right now, might not be in Kompany’s thinking.

Anything can and does happen in football but Kompany strikes me as being quite principled, someone with integrity. I don’t see him moving on so quickly. Nothing will ever surprise me in football though.

I think he’ll have a plan of where he wants to get to, and how he wants to get there, to give himself the very best chance of success.

Taking money (it’s probably not his driver) and the size of the job out of the reckoning, would Spurs be your chosen destination if you had a plan to be as successful as a manager as you were as a player?

They are champions at failing to deliver.

[Ampth7]

He joined us, who had got rid or were about to get rid of the majority of it’s main assets and had a history of not really backing our manager much!

Interesting point you make. It’s fair to say that Dyche wasn’t backed especially in his last couple of seasons as the owners were trying to sell the club and maximise their profit.

However, in terms of what Spurs will need investment wise to make them a genuine title contender/regular top 4, is Levy going to give VK anything like the amount of money needed for both transfers and wages? History would suggest the answer is no which is basically what their last manager was alluding to before he got the sack.

Furthermore, VK came to us in agreement with the owner that our promotion back to the prem would probably be a 2-3 year journey. Would he get the same at Spurs? Again, history would suggest not and whilst I do understand the fact that results determine how long you stay as a manager at any club, they are fighting for top 4 and yet they have still just sacked another manager?!

In comparison to us, VK has been backed financially in relative terms at least, giving him by far the strongest squad in the Championship and more than capable of performing in the league above next season. Our expectations for next year also won’t be weighing heavy on him because anything from 10th-17th will be deemed a success. On the other hand, Spurs will demand at least top 4, a cup run and maybe a trophy, along with attractive Roy of the Rovers football. All of this, having probably lost their main goal threat only to be replaced by sub-standard players that none of the clubs above them would touch with a barge pole.

Just out of interest, do you therefore think VK will go to Spurs and if so, why?

[Wile E Coyote]

none of us wants him to go anywhere, and these links are inevitable sadly.
It is bad for the spirit to think this bubble can be popped by monied clubs luring away the very thing that has brought us success.
would be terrible with promotion secured going forward with the prospect of a chris wilder type manager being brought in as replacement. we all know that is doomed to failure.
players and managers move far too much , but theres, not a thing we can do to prevent it.
I just hope he hates london as much as i do. UTC.

[Lip]

FFS MODS put a padlock on this thread it's depressing.

[Ampth7]

FFS MODS put a padlock on this thread it's depressing.

So why are you reading it?

[Jakubclaret]

Some of us can complain & be bitter about the links suggesting he's on the radar elsewhere but would you really have it any other way, the other way would be taking away the success he's had here the promotion & dare I say the title. You can't really expect 1 without the other it's only naturally both will occur. Kompany isn't proven & for himself & any bigger club it represents too much of a gamble on both fronts, it might be a different story next season he hasn't even won a PL game yet (let's hope he does) talking about a club who has CL aspirations daft doesn't come close.

[AlargeClaret]

Surely it’s very unlikely ? He’s a very wealthy man so money ( for now ) isn’t his motivation . If it ensures AP backs him seriously next season then it’s a good thing , as shows what demand a young talent like VK is in . He’s created a real project here . The one doubt would be if we can’t sign /retain the loans combined with the clear out old guard/ “not made it’s “ which may be impossible to replicate at prem level. I bloody hope he stays .

[NRC]

my first and last contribution - I'm flummoxed this is even a story being given any level of credibility

[Jakubclaret]

my first and last contribution - I'm flummoxed this is even a story being given any level of credibility

Flummoxed really on here it's the kind of story that's sensationalised & thrived upon.

[Indecisive]

Realistically 99% of managers would make the move from Burnley to spurs.

In England I'd say outside United/city/chelsea/arsenal/spurs/Liverpool and now probably Newcastle, VK wouldn't jump ship at this stage.

However I think he's the confidence to back himself do well with spurs and establish himself at the very top. The guy is a winner.

Hopefully, right now, spurs would view him as too big a risk and we get another season out of him.

[Milltown1882]

If you’re in the job to get potted and get a payout in 9 months Spurs is the place to be. I don’t think VK is that daft.

[Wile E Coyote]

FFS MODS put a padlock on this thread it's depressing.

bit of a tough concept for you is it? burnley fans discussing their manager on a burnley fans messageboard ?

[boyyanno]

Realistically 99% of managers would make the move from Burnley to spurs.

In England I'd say outside United/city/chelsea/arsenal/spurs/Liverpool and now probably Newcastle, VK wouldn't jump ship at this stage.

However I think he's the confidence to back himself do well with spurs and establish himself at the very top. The guy is a winner.

Hopefully, right now, spurs would view him as too big a risk and we get another season out of him.

I agree with this and think it's an important point. Kompany has a winners mentality and it's unlikely he would turn a job down for risk of failure, he will definitely back himself to do a good job wherever he goes.

I think if Spurs were serious it would represent a very good move for him. He's touted as a future Man City boss because he is a club legend but teams the size of Spurs do not generally target managers at Championship level/newly promoted teams or without a history of managing at a top level. Managers like Howe and Dyche show that sometimes those clubs still aren't interested even if you're achieving minor miracles.

They might be a bit of a basket case at the moment but he would be unlikely to be considered if they weren't. I also don't think they represent any more of a challenge than we did before he took over. It would also bridge the gap in his C.V from Burnley to big club which (Man City job aside) you'd think he will have to do at some point.

I don't think there's anything in this but that's why I don't think it would be a silly move for him.

[Billy Balfour]

Who knows, but Klopp might walk or be potted at the end of the season, and then we'll have all this speculation repeated. With added concern too.

[IanMcL]

Very re-assuring indeed.

https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/footba ... 73958.html

[Billy Balfour]

Don't spoil the fun, Ian. We are Burnley. If someone says it's a lovely sunny day, another person will tell you the rain will be along soon enough.

[Rileybobs]

Don't spoil the fun, Ian. We are Burnley. If someone says it's a lovely sunny day, another person will tell you the rain will be along soon enough.

In Burnley they would probably be right.

[bfcjg]

I got this sent today no doubt all us season ticket holders did, he is a man of principal there's no way he would do this if he was leaving. We is emphasised.
https://youtu.be/NBkA_RuCL5A

[Billy Balfour]

In Burnley they would probably be right.

Aye, that's kind of my point. For some people, it's an excuse not to enjoy the sunshine.

[andyh]

I think Vinny always speaks about clubs needing patience and loyalty to their managers. It would seem hypocritical if he jumped ship at the first job offer.

[JarrowClaret]

Interesting point you make. It’s fair to say that Dyche wasn’t backed especially in his last couple of seasons as the owners were trying to sell the club and maximise their profit.

However, in terms of what Spurs will need investment wise to make them a genuine title contender/regular top 4, is Levy going to give VK anything like the amount of money needed for both transfers and wages? History would suggest the answer is no which is basically what their last manager was alluding to before he got the sack.

Furthermore, VK came to us in agreement with the owner that our promotion back to the prem would probably be a 2-3 year journey. Would he get the same at Spurs? Again, history would suggest not and whilst I do understand the fact that results determine how long you stay as a manager at any club, they are fighting for top 4 and yet they have still just sacked another manager?!

In comparison to us, VK has been backed financially in relative terms at least, giving him by far the strongest squad in the Championship and more than capable of performing in the league above next season. Our expectations for next year also won’t be weighing heavy on him because anything from 10th-17th will be deemed a success. On the other hand, Spurs will demand at least top 4, a cup run and maybe a trophy, along with attractive Roy of the Rovers football. All of this, having probably lost their main goal threat only to be replaced by sub-standard players that none of the clubs above them would touch with a barge pole.

Just out of interest, do you therefore think VK will go to Spurs and if so, why?

I have no idea I hope he doesn’t and my suspicion is he won’t because of everything he has said and I think there is more to achieve in our journey together before he moves on.

To be fare I couldn’t blame him for going though if he was offered the job and he chose to take over there. If he did though it would be clearly be the the draw of managing a much bigger Club with the players and the money that brings. I would hope he is wise enough to see that has many pitfalls and is probably too soon for him though.

[JohnMac]

I'm not sure going to a Massive Club renowned for winning nothing and sacking any Manager who remotely looks like he might is a good idea for anyone, let alone Vincent Kompany.

[AshevilleNCClaret]

VK is destined for bigger clubs, but I can't see the point of jumping ship to Tottenham now. More money, sure, but no job stability, and could easily see him gone mid-season next year. He then joins the carousel of retread coaches.....
He's been fantastic for burnley but what is his ceiling here? Mid-table team for a few years (just like SD) ? I can easily see our team yo-yo-ing between the championship and the PL rather than staying the PL. He will eventually get a bigger offer that will be too good to refuse. I just think it will be a few years from now.

[123EasyasBFC]

https://twitter.com/marcus_buckland/sta ... rNr6Z5x6nA

[taio]

Some of us can complain & be bitter about the links suggesting he's on the radar elsewhere but would you really have it any other way, the other way would be taking away the success he's had here the promotion & dare I say the title. You can't really expect 1 without the other it's only naturally both will occur. Kompany isn't proven & for himself & any bigger club it represents too much of a gamble on both fronts, it might be a different story next season he hasn't even won a PL game yet (let's hope he does) talking about a club who has CL aspirations daft doesn't come close.

Eh?

[Firthy]

https://twitter.com/marcus_buckland/sta ... rNr6Z5x6nA

He's going to look a bit foolish next week

[roperclaret]

How much did Chelsea pay for Potter?

[Mattster]

How much did Chelsea pay for Potter?

£25m I think it was

[Hipper]

I got this sent today no doubt all us season ticket holders did, he is a man of principal there's no way he would do this if he was leaving. We is emphasised.
https://youtu.be/NBkA_RuCL5A

The cynic in me sees someone out of camera shot somehow forcing VK to do this. Was it a scene from The Goodies where one of them (Tim Brooke-Taylor?) was forced by a broom to be in front of the cameras?

[Elizabeth]

Kompany leaving us now would shock me.

All along he’s indicated that the Burnley job was a project for him and his team and not simply about achieving promotion to the Premier League.

Of course that can always be de-railed if he felt unloved at the club but the opposite is the reality.

He’s building something here

[Rick_Muller]

It’s got the same vibes as something I witnessed previously in my life. I grew up in Swindon and Hoddle came to build something there, and he did. Was poached by Chelsea and left them with John Gorman in charge to fail in the top flight.

Craig Bellamy in charge anyone…?

[taio]

It’s got the same vibes as something I witnessed previously in my life. I grew up in Swindon and Hoddle came to build something there, and he did. Was poached by Chelsea and left them with John Gorman in charge to fail in the top flight.

Craig Bellamy in charge anyone…?

No, he'd go with him.

[Elizabeth]

It’s got the same vibes as something I witnessed previously in my life. I grew up in Swindon and Hoddle came to build something there, and he did. Was poached by Chelsea and left them with John Gorman in charge to fail in the top flight.

Craig Bellamy in charge anyone…?

I hope it’s more of a case of the Alex Ferguson story when he was building the Aberdeen side

[Rick_Muller]

No, he'd go with him.

They said the same of John Gorman in Swindon