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Googled Mama Balde but accidentally missed the first 'M' and searched for Ama Balde. Luckily these are two very different people.
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Wow this brings up memories. He was called Bolo if I'm not mistaken. And I used to say the same thing.Woonderbah wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2023 8:14 pmThere used to be a CH at Celtic called Balde and I always wanted us to sign him so we'd have a CH pairing of Balde and Gnohere
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BoboArmchairDetective wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2023 8:24 pmWow this brings up memories. He was called Bolo if I'm not mistaken. And I used to say the same thing.
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I think the problem is that if you are a PL club the price goes up, so in that aspect Hes right.RVclaret wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2023 11:59 amAhem and there seems to be the issue. Surely this season is literal proof this isn’t the case. I’ll bet Al-Dakhil (3m) and possibly Ekdal (2.2m) go onto be good PL players. Early signs of the former suggest he has a higher ceiling than any of them. Well run clubs often have back ups ready to go, that’s a failure which is on us.
As for 8-10m to Brentford, not sure how that’s been arrived at - surely it’s more 5-6m… 20% of a 26m profit (assuming 30m sale) is 5.2m (approx).
I think if you’re in the championship you get players in cheaper, is what he was getting at personally.
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You do not think I understand the point as to why some people have an opinion that selling Tarkowski was the best option ?KRBFC wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2023 8:12 pmI’m not quite sure you understand the point being made of why selling Tarkowski was the best option.
That money could have been reinvested in the full team to stop things becoming stale. Tarkowski is an average PL defender and was never worth that kinda money, sell to reinvest and refresh the team not sell to just replace like for like
Is that what you are saying ? How very perceptive….sorry I mean patronising of you
You are stating this like it’s a fact rather than returning to your type of criticising Dyche at every opportunity.
I was not expressing an opinion either way as to whether selling him was the best option. I was offering a reason why Dyche might have not believed that selling him was the best option for the team at that point in time.
Your other comments about Tarkowski are not even worthy of a response.
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Watching Balde's highlights is making me wonder whether we've ever had a Burnley player do a back flip or somersault to celebrate a goal before...?
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How about Nathan Tella, or does a loan player not count.
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For context Ekram says we are making an opening bid of 10m for him.Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2023 8:55 pmL Equippe
Ekran Kroneur
France football
There’s a fair few saying that VK is in talks with him.
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On your Bikey!ArmchairDetective wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2023 9:21 pmWatching Balde's highlights is making me wonder whether we've ever had a Burnley player do a back flip or somersault to celebrate a goal before...?
after scoring against Birmingham City in 2009 at home!
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I now have Hang the DJ by The Smiths ringing in my ears. Feels like a different time!claretblue wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2023 9:35 pmOn your Bikey!
after scoring against Birmingham City in 2009 at home!
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Bikey, and Tella after his hat trick goal against PNE this season.ArmchairDetective wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2023 9:21 pmWatching Balde's highlights is making me wonder whether we've ever had a Burnley player do a back flip or somersault to celebrate a goal before...?
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Was it Wet Spam that was offering approx 40m?
I think, and this is where people may differ, that giving Brentford 27.5% of circa 40m and replacing him with newer, younger players kee the investment of the squad on our home soil.
Those players we buy with the profits we could then potentially sell on for profit again. So there’s a cumulative effect to what we should have made on Tarks.
Letting him walk for nothing is criminal for a club of our size. Why let assets walk away for nowt. Your instead leaving yourself the problem of having to replace with no funds as opposed to selling him for cash and having some money to make progress with.
I suspect those saying ‘keep him’ were choosing league position over losing assets. Its a real possibility we lose assets this summer for sizeable fees (they’d have to be or wont sell) and be faced with finding more replacements. Ultimately, they might not keep us up and we have to ‘yo-yo’ again. But thats the game we’re in now.
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Out of interest would anyone take Dewsbury Hall from Leicester? Always looked a decent Cm whenever I saw him
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West Ham’s final offer was £31m, £25m guaranteed, the rest being performance-related so no idea on the likelihood we’d have ever seen it.Notsosuperstevedavis wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2023 10:18 pmWas it Wet Spam that was offering approx 40m?
I think, and this is where people may differ, that giving Brentford 27.5% of circa 40m and replacing him with newer, younger players kee the investment of the squad on our home soil.
Those players we buy with the profits we could then potentially sell on for profit again. So there’s a cumulative effect to what we should have made on Tarks.
Letting him walk for nothing is criminal for a club of our size. Why let assets walk away for nowt. Your instead leaving yourself the problem of having to replace with no funds as opposed to selling him for cash and having some money to make progress with.
I suspect those saying ‘keep him’ were choosing league position over losing assets. Its a real possibility we lose assets this summer for sizeable fees (they’d have to be or wont sell) and be faced with finding more replacements. Ultimately, they might not keep us up and we have to ‘yo-yo’ again. But thats the game we’re in now.
Not sure if you read my post about Tarks’ efforts in retaining our PL status meaning we gained £100m in place of £25m? It was actually really instead of about £18m. No idea how anyone could argue they’d rather £18m over £100m.
We don’t have to lose any of our prized assets if they’re under contract. That’s our choice and if we sell and it costs us the £100m + we get from being in the PL, also our fault. There’s a really huge amount of money on offer for retaining PL status that dwarfs the transfer fees we might be offered, so it’s a very big financial risk selling any of our better players until our squad is better placed to handle their departures. I think we’ll be strengthening, not weakening, fwiw.
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Im hopeful we’ll be stronger too, and we’ll hopefully get 12 more months out of these players before we sell any off.
On the keeping Tarks one. We kept him and got relegated anyway. So keeping him gained nothing. While selling him would have gained something.
On the keeping Tarks one. We kept him and got relegated anyway. So keeping him gained nothing. While selling him would have gained something.
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I'm not sure if we could get him but we could do worse than Jack Harrison from Leeds
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Burnley monitoring the position of Divock Origi
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What a crazy summer alreadyNewcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Mon May 29, 2023 7:26 amBurnley monitoring the position of Divock Origi
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Benson going the other way?Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Mon May 29, 2023 7:26 amBurnley monitoring the position of Divock Origi
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It’s the old hindsight thing though isn’t it? A gamble that didn’t pay off. A risk worth taking in my view. However, it didn’t work out too badly for either party!Notsosuperstevedavis wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2023 11:22 pmIm hopeful we’ll be stronger too, and we’ll hopefully get 12 more months out of these players before we sell any off.
On the keeping Tarks one. We kept him and got relegated anyway. So keeping him gained nothing. While selling him would have gained something.
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Not the season after the bids, so we retained PL status anyway.Notsosuperstevedavis wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2023 11:22 pmOn the keeping Tarks one. We kept him and got relegated anyway. So keeping him gained nothing. While selling him would have gained something.
The summer prior to leaving, there were no bids to my memory (think he’d decided he was leaving in a free).
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KRBFC wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2023 8:20 pmI don’t care he was never worth anywhere near £35m, far too slow and limited to one way of playing. Cracking defending his own penalty box and an absolute headless chicken outside of it, luckily Dyche Central defenders don’t leave their own penalty box so it’s a perfect fit for him to excel
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We turned down the £30m bid from West Ham at the start of the 2020/21 season and just about survived. So it did work and we did gain another £130m of revenue.Notsosuperstevedavis wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2023 11:22 pm
On the keeping Tarks one. We kept him and got relegated anyway. So keeping him gained nothing. While selling him would have gained something.
We finished 17th and Tarks, Mee and Pope were the main reasons we did survive.
The year after we just about get relegated but Tarks was our best and most consistent player and losing Mee for a big chunk of the last few months was a big factor in going down.
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Fabio Carvhalho has a permanent offer from abroad according to Romano.
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Would 100% have origiNewcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Mon May 29, 2023 7:26 amBurnley monitoring the position of Divock Origi
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Despite watching him play this season & three playoff matches, I can’t really recall him. Probably not a good sign. What’s everyone else’s thoughts?ArmchairDetective wrote: ↑Mon May 29, 2023 8:00 amCody Drameh linked
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The problem with this is that time catches up with the logic eventually. Either the player gets too old or (like Tarks) he gets to a point where he feels that to get the move/payday he has to let his contract run down.Big Vinny K wrote: ↑Mon May 29, 2023 9:25 amWe turned down the £30m bid from West Ham at the start of the 2020/21 season and just about survived. So it did work and we did gain another £130m of revenue.
We finished 17th and Tarks, Mee and Pope were the main reasons we did survive.
The year after we just about get relegated but Tarks was our best and most consistent player and losing Mee for a big chunk of the last few months was a big factor in going down.
So all you do is delay the inevitable course of events. The only way to intercept events is to cash in and regenerate the squad. However difficult that is with a player of Tarks' quality.
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He’s a good athlete that can get up and down the right hand side.
I think he’s an improvement on Vitinho. Would also allow us a bit more flexibility to go to a three at a back
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Given our signing spree last summer, I think we are going to get linked by any and everyone in the papers - just to have a article for people to click on.
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Completely agree.claretspice wrote: ↑Mon May 29, 2023 9:57 amThe problem with this is that time catches up with the logic eventually. Either the player gets too old or (like Tarks) he gets to a point where he feels that to get the move/payday he has to let his contract run down.
So all you do is delay the inevitable course of events. The only way to intercept events is to cash in and regenerate the squad. However difficult that is with a player of Tarks' quality.
But the Tarks situation really was a moment in time thing which determined the decision not to sell Tarks. There were a number of pretty unique circumstances involved.
Our owner was allowing contracts to run down.
Our owner was looking to sell the club
Our manager only wanted to shop in the British market (especially for his defenders)
The price of English defenders was inflated - look at what we were being quoted for the bang average forest defender we were often linked with.
Tarks was an England international and he was playing for burnley
Tarks knows he can double his wages and get a whacking signing on fee if he stays till the end of the contract.
And when you are as good as Tarks knows he is and you are say 2 years out from your contract end knowing there are big clubs interested in you then all you have to do is stay fit to get yourself a life changing deal.
And finally and most importantly in our scenario our manager believes the best way to stay up is to keep Tarks.
It’s all short termism type stuff which is no good for the club as you say - but whilst the circumstances around Tarks look like a perfect storm you only have to see what is happening at Leicester to understand that very good players are happy for the club to let their contracts run down knowing that bigger clubs are interested in them.
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Given our signing spree last summer, I think we are going to sign any and everyone in the papers.CoolClaret wrote: ↑Mon May 29, 2023 10:04 amGiven our signing spree last summer, I think we are going to get linked by any and everyone in the papers - just to have a article for people to click on.
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Theres a reason he signed for dogshit Everton after they barely survived and not BarcelonaBig Vinny K wrote: ↑Mon May 29, 2023 10:52 amCompletely agree.
But the Tarks situation really was a moment in time thing which determined the decision not to sell Tarks. There were a number of pretty unique circumstances involved.
Our owner was allowing contracts to run down.
Our owner was looking to sell the club
Our manager only wanted to shop in the British market (especially for his defenders)
The price of English defenders was inflated - look at what we were being quoted for the bang average forest defender we were often linked with.
Tarks was an England international and he was playing for burnley
Tarks knows he can double his wages and get a whacking signing on fee if he stays till the end of the contract.
And when you are as good as Tarks knows he is and you are say 2 years out from your contract end knowing there are big clubs interested in you then all you have to do is stay fit to get yourself a life changing deal.
And finally and most importantly in our scenario our manager believes the best way to stay up is to keep Tarks.
It’s all short termism type stuff which is no good for the club as you say - but whilst the circumstances around Tarks look like a perfect storm you only have to see what is happening at Leicester to understand that very good players are happy for the club to let their contracts run down knowing that bigger clubs are interested in them.
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I’d say based on the size of his contract and signing on fee there are at least 20 million reasons why Tarks signed for Everton.
Funny how most burnley fans voted Tarks in their best ever burnley eleven yet you talk about him like he’s a slight upgrade on Peter Swan. But with your inflated opinion of your football knowledge I’m pretty sure you believe you are correct and everyone else is wrong.
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In summary, we should be a club that looks to sell players when very good offers come in, but in Tarks’ case the club were not at all prepared for his departure (or any other big players at the time) and it was the right decision to keep him.
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Burnley have put an opening offer in for Mikaudetze
According to Ekram Konur
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Surely the credibility of this journo has to be in question, in 18 hours linked us with 3 strikers, if he gets one right he will call that a win hahahaNewcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Mon May 29, 2023 11:55 amBurnley have put an opening offer in for Mikaudetze
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So according to him we sent offers for 2 strikers in one day (and want Origi as well). That's all you need to know about his credibility.Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Mon May 29, 2023 11:55 amBurnley have put an opening offer in for Mikaudetze
According to Ekram Konur
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The problem with twitter transfer journos they through that many different stories, links and rumours out there that they can never be wrong, and delete stories that don’t happen
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I hadn't heard of konur till last couple of days....lots of tweets, too many really, seems an awful lot of guesswork123EasyasBFC wrote: ↑Mon May 29, 2023 11:57 amSurely the credibility of this journo has to be in question, in 18 hours linked us with 3 strikers, if he gets one right he will call that a win hahaha
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Not sure of this guys track record but he seems pretty scattergun.
If Sacha Tovolieri starts talking I’ll believe it as he has been proven to have an ear to Kompany repeatedly.
If Sacha Tovolieri starts talking I’ll believe it as he has been proven to have an ear to Kompany repeatedly.
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‘Info : free on June 30, AJA U21 international midfielder Han-Noah Massengo is very popular with Vincent Kompany and Burnley ‘
From a French footmercato journo.
https://twitter.com/sebnonda/status/166 ... 59Piho1d6w
From a French footmercato journo.
https://twitter.com/sebnonda/status/166 ... 59Piho1d6w
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Seems like a journalist that has just discovered the Burnley twitter mafia, who will retweet, like and comment on any rumour you could link us with.
His twitter traffic will go up plenty by linking us to every man and his dog.
His twitter traffic will go up plenty by linking us to every man and his dog.