Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

[Vegas Claret]

pretty clear there will be more signings
https://twitter.com/BurnleyOfficial/sta ... 06080?s=20

[Pickles]

Larsen is a winger every day of the week

"out and out winger"

[Kevwando]

In our squad we have:

Benson, Zaroury, Larsen, Gudmundsson (played nearly his whole career there and the second half today), Redmond, Koleoshi, Costelloe.

We then have the following players that have played on the wing (some of them as recent as last season)

Foster, Amdouni, Twine,

So that’s ten players in our squad of 25 that have played on the wing or currently play on the wing.

But we currently have 1 player that plays left back and 3 that play CM.

I’m not sure how you can say we are not currently unbalanced

Give it a rest mate

[Newcastleclaret93]

Give it a rest mate

Not sure what I have said that is wrong there?

[Pickles]

Not sure what I have said that is wrong there?

Pretty much all of it.

[CoolClaret]

Ok so we have 4 ‘out and out wingers’10 +that can play that position, probably 6 that can play there to a half decent standard…

Now let’s look at left back and centre mid with 6 days to go till the first game.

One recognised left back that ‘isn’t a system fit’

Three recognised centre midfielders (not including Bastien), one of which is 34, ones injured and one isn’t particularly good in the 6 role.

Sounds like an unbalanced squad to me

[Chuckypad]

We are about to go in to a premier league season with our best CM being a 34 year old Jack cork

Better than Burnley FC's Player of the Season and Players' Player of the Season Josh Cullen?

I agree we need to bolster centre mid, but you give the impression that we're going into the Prem with just an ageing Jack Cork. I think you're overlooking the dynamsim that came from midfield last season, without Jack Cork for large parts.

I think Jack Cork is ace by the way.

[ksrclaret]

"out and out winger"

In and in winger

He’s a winger and should be included with Benson, Zaroury, Koleosho and Redmond.

[ksrclaret]

pretty clear there will be more signings
https://twitter.com/BurnleyOfficial/sta ... 06080?s=20

Yes clearly quite a bit still to be done

There will surely be a number of departures as well just before the window closes

[ervi34]

Reims interested in Daramy.

[123EasyasBFC]

Don’t see Amdouni or twine playing out wide at all.
Wingers under contract at the moment
Zaroury
Benson - injury record not great and plays 60min at most of top quality football then needs to be replaced
Redmond
Larsen
Koleosho - 18 year old can’t expect to count on him every week
Costelloe - he will leave on loan
JBG - who probably won’t play wide all season
There’s 100% space for 2 more wingers if not 3 wingers still, one who scored 19 last season and can play central to

[boatshed bill]

Some people really must enjoy worrying.
Still a while to go til the window closes.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Better than Burnley FC's Player of the Season and Players' Player of the Season Josh Cullen?

I agree we need to bolster centre mid, but you give the impression that we're going into the Prem with just an ageing Jack Cork. I think you're overlooking the dynamsim that came from midfield last season, without Jack Cork for large parts.

I think Jack Cork is ace by the way.

It was in reference to the fact that cullen will 100% not be playing against city because of his injury

[Pickles]

Don’t see Amdouni or twine playing out wide at all.
Wingers under contract at the moment
Zaroury
Benson - injury record not great and plays 60min at most of top quality football then needs to be replaced
Redmond
Larsen
Koleosho - 18 year old can’t expect to count on him every week
Costelloe - he will leave on loan
JBG - who probably won’t play wide all season
There’s 100% space for 2 more wingers if not 3 wingers still, one who scored 19 last season and can play central to

A good post. It blows my mind that people are considering Twine, Gudmundsson, Costelloe and Vitinho as wingers. If they play ninety minutes in total combined as wingers over the season then I'll donate a couple of quid to somewhere.

[CoolClaret]

Some people really must enjoy worrying.
Still a while to go til the window closes.

No one likes getting business done after the season starts.

Earlier the better

[123EasyasBFC]

A good post. It blows my mind that people are considering Twine, Gudmundsson, Costelloe and Vitinho as wingers. If they play ninety minutes in total combined as wingers over the season then I'll donate a couple of quid to somewhere.

If we stick to using Vitinho as a full back, he will only get better, the fact he plays so many different positions doesn’t help

[boatshed bill]

No one likes getting business done after the season starts.

Earlier the better

We did a lot of our business after last season started

[CoolClaret]

We did a lot of our business after last season started

Tella and Beyer out of the key players, can’t think of any others?

All the rest were in early doors - not to mention there’s 8 less games in the PL season.

[Pickles]

Tella and Beyer out of the key players, can’t think of any others?

All the rest were in early doors - not to mention there’s 8 less games in the PL season.

Benson.

[Goody1975]

Reims interested in Daramy.

They should have learnt their lesson in 1960.

[Swizzlestick]

Tella and Beyer out of the key players, can’t think of any others?

All the rest were in early doors - not to mention there’s 8 less games in the PL season.

Benson signed after we’d played Huddersfield.

[Chuckypad]

It was in reference to the fact that cullen will 100% not be playing against city because of his injury

We'll just have to dip into that stockpile of wingers I reckon

[Kevwando]

Tella and Beyer out of the key players, can’t think of any others?

All the rest were in early doors - not to mention there’s 8 less games in the PL season.

Benson came in after the league had started

[CoolClaret]

Aye sorry, Benson came in after Huddersfield and came on against Luton.

Still had the core lot in - worth mentioning as well that the season started unbelievably early last season. A good three weeks before our season this year

[Nori1958]

Reims in for Daramy as well

[ksrclaret]

Aye sorry, Benson came in after Huddersfield and came on against Luton.

Still had the core lot in - worth mentioning as well that the season started unbelievably early last season. A good three weeks before our season this year

We signed 6 players after the start of last season. They were:

Benson
Tella
Churlinov
Zaroury
Beyer
Dervisoglu

So four out of the six were huge players in the rest of the season.

I'd have liked signings in CM and LB earlier because at present we are very unbalanced, but players do integrate very well even after signing later on.

[boatshed bill]

We signed 6 players after the start of last season. They were:

Benson
Tella
Churlinov
Zaroury
Beyer
Dervisoglu

So four out of the six were huge players in the rest of the season.

I'd have liked signings in CM and LB earlier because at present we are very unbalanced, but players do integrate very well even after signing later on.

Far too accurate details for this MB

[CoolClaret]

We signed 6 players after the start of last season. They were:

Benson
Tella
Churlinov
Zaroury
Beyer
Dervisoglu

So four out of the six were huge players in the rest of the season.

I'd have liked signings in CM and LB earlier because at present we are very unbalanced, but players do integrate very well even after signing later on.

They can do yeah, but they were slowly integrated and it famously took a good 10 weeks to properly get everyone up to speed.

We did marvellously well getting a few results together early season with Cork/Cullen/THB/Taylor/Muric then a bit of a motley crue.

We don’t have that same luxury in the PL. 10 weeks to settle and you’re really struggling

[boatshed bill]

We don’t have that same luxury in the PL. 10 weeks to settle and you’re really struggling

Why not, there are fewer games per week in the PL.

[Goody1975]

Why not, there are fewer games per week in the PL.

Last season, there was barely a spare week to work on things in training. So many midweek games hindered that.

The City game could see us spending £200 Million and have all the players in by now and still get humped 4-0. The spare week after that gives the manager a real chance to integrate and plan for the real start to the season.

[CoolClaret]

Tella signed just after Luton as well as his debut was against Watford away - just the third game in, which was on the 12th of August.

Again a big point no one is touching on is the amount of games - so important to get off to a good start in the Prem with just 38 games to play.

Can’t say you’re all not a bit concerned that we don’t have a left back that can effectively play the system and very thin in the middle of the park

[CoolClaret]

Why not, there are fewer games per week in the PL.

Because it’s a much higher level! Each game counts for so much more

[boatshed bill]

Because it’s a much higher level! Each game counts for so much more

I actually don't see it that way, and would point to Nottingham Forest last season.

[CoolClaret]

I actually don't see it that way, and would point to Nottingham Forest last season.

How can you not?

There’s 8 less games so each one has way more impact on your overall league position as a %

[boatshed bill]

How can you not?

There’s 8 less games so each one has way more impact on your overall league position as a %

Yes, every team has 8 less games.

[Claretnick]

How can you not?

There’s 8 less games so each one has way more impact on your overall league position as a %

I must be thick because I don't understand your point.

Every team in the PL plays 38 games, how does the fact we played 8 more in the Championship have any bearing on our league position this season. Sorry but I can't make any sense of what you are saying.

The management team are handsomely paid to tackle the issues you are thinking about, sit back and let them get on with it IMO....

[daveisaclaret]

Gudmondsson isn't a winger is definitely an easier statement to defend on days when he hasn't played on the wing, I reckon.

[BurnleyFC]

We’ve made some solid acquisitions this summer, but it has to be said, the squad we ended last season with was better and more balanced for me.

[CoolClaret]

I must be thick because I don't understand your point.

Every team in the PL plays 38 games, how does the fact we played 8 more in the Championship have any bearing on our league position this season. Sorry but I can't make any sense of what you are saying.

The management team are handsomely paid to tackle the issues you are thinking about, sit back and let them get on with it IMO....

The point is our squad is nowhere near complete and we have a system that famously takes a while to fully get to grips with, meaning that we’re playing catch-up from the off, rather than having bodies in early.

You don’t want to fall behind in the Prem - 10 games to properly gel is over 1/4 of the season.

The management team are paid handsomely at every club - can I not raise discussion about it?

[Pickles]

Gudmondsson isn't a winger is definitely an easier statement to defend on days when he hasn't played on the wing, I reckon.

Or if Gudmundsson's playing out there, does it show that we need more options?

[boatshed bill]

The management team are paid handsomely at every club - can I not raise discussion about it?

The discussion, as you put it, would benefit from you even for a second considering other opinions.

[Andingle]

https://motleedsnews.com/transfers/burn ... mmerville/

[Newcastleclaret93]

The discussion, as you put it, would benefit from you even for a second considering other opinions.

Tbf I think coolclaret has? He’s not being critical either just saying that he is concerned about how unbalanced the squad is.

All fair comments IMO

[123EasyasBFC]

We should count ourselves lucky we have done the business we have already before the season has started. West Ham have lost their best player and haven’t brought anybody in, wolves, palace, forest, sheff united and Everton all struggling to bring new faces in to

[daveisaclaret]

Or if Gudmundsson's playing out there, does it show that we need more options?

Having lots of good wingers will be a good thing imo. Just not clear why anyone would say we aren't going to have lots.

[Pickles]

https://motleedsnews.com/transfers/burn ... mmerville/

Wow. Imagine he'll have lots of clubs after him.

[Pickles]

Having lots of good wingers will be a good thing imo. Just not clear why anyone would say we aren't going to have lots.

I think when all's said and done we'll have five to rotate throughout the season. Which is a good thing, like you say.

[louieollie]

Yet another Burnley story that Nixon was the first to report on.. And there will still be people saying he never gets anything right.

As they say " throw enough s##t and eventually some will stick" ........a moral victory I suppose for his devout followers and a justification in paying to read "his exclusives"

[CoolClaret]

The discussion, as you put it, would benefit from you even for a second considering other opinions.

Bizarre response, I’ve considered the response and replied in more detail with my POV.

It’s really simple

Would you prefer to have a settled squad now or in another week or two- which would be more beneficial for our chances this season?

& yes, I appreciate that it doesn’t work like that but again when we’re chucking 14-19 mill on an untested young goal keeper I think we’re being far too clever.

[boatshed bill]

Tbf I think coolclaret has? He’s not being critical either just saying that he is concerned about how unbalanced the squad is.

All fair comments IMO

Apart from denying that we did a quantity of our business after the season started, yes.
And ignoring the fact that we started building this season's squad in last winter's window.